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Sub Prime
Perkone
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Posted - 2011.11.30 10:48:00 -
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I think the main issue here (not the side issue of minerals) is that doing drone hordes is now worse than before (when they were still worse than sanctums!). Personally, I'd prefer bounties as it's far far more convenient that the following:
Salvage/transport drone alloys
sell drone alloys = ISK, or or refine drone alloys
sell minerals = ISK or build with minerals
sell product (after transporting potentially) = ISK
Bounties are so much easier than dealing with drone alloys, so everyone that wants to complaing about the mining profession do so on another thread instead of complaining about it on a thread about the following changes to hordes:
They're harder to salvage
There is less salvage = less ISK (whatever way you want to look at it)
EDIT: UNTIL THEY REMOVE ALLOYS FROM DRONES ANYONE THAT DOES HORDES HAS A VALID POINT ABOUT THEM BEING NERFED |
Sub Prime
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.30 11:29:00 -
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There is an unbelievable amount of utter garbage in this thread, below is the truth:
1. Drone Horde alloys are worth less that Sanctum bounties.
2. Drone Hordes require savalging to get said alloys.
3. Depending on how you sell alloys, they might require a number of things done to them (refining/transportation/production) to realise the ISK value.
4. Drones Hordes can be completed in the same time as Sanctums.
5. Drones hit with multiple dmg types making them the hardest non WH anomolies to tank.
And now what's happened:
6. The horde that allowed easier salvaging (i.e. while you were doing the horde) has been removed.
7. Hordes now provide even less ISK because the alloy drops have been reduced.
8. Until bounties or another method of gaining ISK are on place, drones still drop alloys and this nerf needs to be resolved. |
Sub Prime
Perkone
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2011.11.30 14:56:00 -
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Sheesh, will you miners ever listen. CCP maee drone alloys the only source of PVE income (excluding salvage and borked mag/rad sites) in the Drone Regions. People HAVE to make a living there, hence they're a bit peeved that the anomolies and drop amount have been nerfed. Considering the extra effort that players in the drone regions have to exert to realise the ISK, this has made them quite angry.
Now, back to you miners, if you want your mineral fix, fine, just come up with some suggestiong about alternatives for making ISK in these regions instead of just whining about how minerals should just be for miners. |
Sub Prime
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.01 10:57:00 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Strictly enforce no-botting policy in all of the drone regions, and market forces will fix #1, which in return will fix all the other issues you posted.
That's fine by me - please ensure this applies to all regions though. You'd be a naive little nipper if you thought the problem of botting within Eve is restricted to the drone regions. |
Sub Prime
Perkone
Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2011.12.01 10:59:00 -
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seany1212 wrote:
And yet drone horde spawn rates are greater than sanctums O.o
QQ some moar?
I think you'll find that Hubs, Ports and god know how many non drone anomolies are worth more than Hordes now, so how about you QQ some moar? |
Sub Prime
Perkone
Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2011.12.01 11:03:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ok.
The Drone Regions have over time become the largest provider of minerals in the game, effectively killing off an entire profession (mining) and rendering the ships related to this profession increasingly pointless. Objectively, this is bad.
It is no secret that they are looking at fixing this problem by drastically altering or completely removing alloys to. They are taking the long view on this and are trying to satisfy its customers by offering a wide variety of activities across a wide variety of space. The current set-up of the drone regions hinders both of those and thus needs to change.
Whether the occupants of the drone regions like such a change is, objectively, almost irrelevant.
There are 2 issues here; Making ISK in Drone regions & Alloy drops from drones.
This thread is all about making ISK in Drone regions. I don't care if pink elephants drop from drones as long as they're worth ISK and are comparable to sanctums in other regions.
I personally agree that minerals should come from mining. I also think that CCP should make changes to mining to minimise a) AFK mining and b) botting. By making the vast majority of all minerals available solely through mining the prices will go up; the risk and attention to game should go up as well.
Mine as much as you want and make loads of ISK, but don't read a book or watch a movie while doing it. |
Sub Prime
Perkone
Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2011.12.01 11:49:00 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Sub Prime wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Strictly enforce no-botting policy in all of the drone regions, and market forces will fix #1, which in return will fix all the other issues you posted. That's fine by me - please ensure this applies to all regions though. You'd be a naive little nipper if you thought the problem of botting within Eve is restricted to the drone regions. Not naive, you're the one who is... You do realize that if you kill botting in other regions the amount of ISK floating around would diminish, thereby making #1 worse.
Apologies, I misread your post. Yes it would, but tbh I think botting should be eradicated from everywhere because it's not just a problem in the drone regions. |
Sub Prime
Perkone
Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2011.12.01 11:51:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:
Split mining in 2 groups: high sec mining and 0.0 mining. U cant idle much in 0.0 or else u will get toasted by a fast frig.
0.0 mining should be the only provider of #1 ore and maybe in some degree #2&3 ores. With #1 i mean morphite (u have special ship and skills needed for it) and #2&3 megacyte and zydrine.
0.0 Mining is alot more dangerous (need more attention cant idle like in high sec, rat spawns does pop your hulk very very fast (they get in warp rly slow)) so should be paying out alot more than in safe high sec.
Nullsec mining in grav sites is pretty safe. As long as a ship is around to take out the NPC spawns, there's no need to worry about getting ganked as they'd have to scan you down and warp to you, giving loads of time to leave the site. |
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